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Chat with Fran Zone and PBWC Members
(9 AM Chat)
Operations-Welcome
to the inaugural chat for the Professional BusinessWomen of
California. Today we are honored to present our honored
guest, Fran Zone. I am the chat moderator and my login name
is "Operations". We will be starting
shortly. We are just waiting for a to see if a few more
arrivals join us. Before we start our chat I have a few
general rules to present and then I will turn it over to our
hosts, Kimberly and Fran.
Operations-We
are just waiting for a to see if a few more arrivals join
us. Before we start our chat I have a few general rules to
present and then I will turn it over to our hosts, Kimberly
and Fran.
Operations-Welcome
again everyone. Thank you for joining us today.
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The Fran Zone Chat is a moderated chat room.2) Please do not
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After you submit a "?" your question will be held
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with you by refraining from profanity and prejudicial
comments especially related to sex, race, age or class.6)
Enjoy yourself and have fun!
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Hello
and welcome to PBWC's first-ever online chat! Our chat
features one of PBWC's most popular speakers, Fran Zone, a
communication expert and vocal advocate for women in the
workplace. My
name is Kimberly Rengleand I will serve as your
facilitator. Those of you that have heard Fran speak know
what a dynamo she is. Her clients include White House Staff,
CEO's, Senator Jackie Speier, Time Inc, and smart people
like YOU. She is the co-creator of leadership scholarships
for women and the creator
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-have
heard Fran speak know what a dynamo she is. Her clients
include White House Staff, CEO's, Senator Jackie Speier,
Time Inc, and smart people like YOU. She is the co-creator
of leadership scholarships for women and the creator of the
Stop Auditioning! Workshop, which will be held August 1 at
the Hotel Nikko in San Francisco.
In fact, a chance to win a free registration is
featured on this chat page!
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-will
be held August 1 at the Hotel Nikko in San Francisco. In fact, a chance to win a free registration is featured on
this chat page!Today, Fran will focus on your thoughts and
questions about leadership, power, and moving your career
forward. We've received several questions from you already -- so let's
start with those and then open it up to what's on your mind
right now. Enjoy!
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-received
several questions from you already -- so let's start with
those and then open it up to what's on your mind right now.
Enjoy!
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-First,
what should you do if you are having a disagreement with
someone?
Fran
Zone-Whatever
you do, NEVER let a disagreement be perceived as personal.
It's the best way to lose an argument and marginalize
yourself completely as a woman. NEVER let a disagreement be
perceived as personal!
It drops you squarely into the 'emotional female'
stereotype and you won't be taken seriously. What you want
to do is get agreement on defining what it is you disagree
about. Hear each other out and then agree to disagree.
Champions find victories in shades of grey.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Here
is what Fran was trying to continue with:
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-and
you won't be taken seriously. What you want to do is get
agreement on defining what it is you disagree about. Hear
each other out and then agree to disagree. Champions find
victories in shades of grey.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-What
is the single most important way to improve personal and
public presentation style?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Fran
says: Know what works for you.
Pay attention to little victories and repeat them.
This is where confidence is born. The more you know about
what works for you, the better. AND -- when presenting to
anyone, do your homework. All audiences are focused on the
answer to one question:
"How will you (or this idea) affect me?"
The better you answer that question, the better the
result. In other words, focus on them and they will focus on
you.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-question:
"How will you (or this idea) affect me?"
The better you answer that question, the better the
result. In other words, focus on them and they will focus on
you.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-How
can women make the transition from management to the
executive suite?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Fran
says: Managers are usually facilitation focused in their
communication. Executives focus on strategy.
Executives are respected for how they think -- not
how late or how hard they work.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Strategic
thinkers move up the ladder quickly. Seize opportunities to
share how you think -- in meetings, in email -- ask
questions about outcomes and strategy -- always align to
objectives when making a point...And whenever possible, be
seen as the voice of reason -- the person that can put
things in perspective.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle---
the person that can put things in perspective.
EVERY meeting and every boardroom needs a voice of
reason -- why not let it be YOU?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-How
can you best leverage the way you are perceived in the
workplace?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Fran
says: Take charge of defining yourself. You can do this at
all levels of your career.
The best way to take charge of managing how you are
perceived is to manage what is ASSUMED of you.
If you manage what I assume of you, you manage how I
value you.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-She
continues: Act "as if" you are the next level you
seek. A desk
stacked high in work and papers constantly sends the visual
message that you are a worker with too much to do.
Ever notice that leaders have fairly clean offices
and desks? Not
a coincidence.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Further:
In doing so, they create the assumption that they are
managing their workload and can take on more responsibility.
Also -- NEVER go to a meeting shlepping papers and folders.
You will LOOK like a worker and no one will listen to
how you think.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-What
makes "good" leaders?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Fran
says: Good leaders are good listeners. They listen for
what's needed and make choices accordingly. Great leaders
are motivators and enablers.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-She
continues: They motivate action and enable results by
providing the tools, support and/or resources necessary to
get the job done and allow OTHERS to take the credit.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-How
do you prepare if you are being interviewed by the media?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Fran
says: Do your homework. Preparation is vital in media
interview. Know
as much about the interviewer, their publication, or program
as possible. What do they focus on?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-She
continues: To make it worth your time,
you should never do media interviews merely to answer
questions -- you do media interviews to deliver a message.
Identify and define the message you want to deliver.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-And,
Fran says DON'T forget: Anticipate the 5 questions you
expect the most and DREAD the most.
Be ready for all of them.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-How
can women create Genderless Power in the workplace?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Fran
says: Power IS genderless.
Power is the ability to make a decision for an
outcome and having the authority and resources to back it
up.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-She
continues: A workplace that values strategic thinking,
listening without judgment, and supports and encourages
growth and learning is a powerful place for all genders.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-For
those who've just joined the chat, Fran is having some
trouble connecting, so I am posting both the questions
you've asked and the responses.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-How
can we help redefine success?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Fran
says:
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Today's
workplace offers many opportunities for us all to define
success for ourselves. Flex-time, job shares are an example,
if balance, etc is your idea of success. You don't HAVE to
climb the ladder unless you want to.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Further:
The BEST way to redefine success is to define it for
yourself and be sure that a person or mentor in power
respects and supports that definition. Then you've got
traction.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Here's
a good one! What is the biggest mistake you ever made and
what did you learn from it?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Fran
says: Probably believing that working harder and longer
would be rewarded. I learned that the harder and longer I
worked, the tired-er and more resentful I got, while people
who were setting boundaries were going home earlier and
getting promoted.
Kathryn
Serksnis-So
this has all been staged?
I thought we were joining a live chat with her?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Absolutely!
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-We've
started with a few of the questions YOU'VE already sent
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Do
you have a question?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Operations
-- any new questions?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-This
just in... What are some of the not-so-obvious mistakes made
in the work environment when trying to get ahead and
promoted?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-We
do get in our own way, especially when we count on old
habits to support new skills. Many of us still count on
working hard as a way to the top.
Jackie
McNab-?
Fran, could you discuss the importance of networking and
mentoring in regards to moving your career forward
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Fran
says: Good
question! MENTORS
are invaluable, but evern better are STRATEGIC WITNESSES --
people of power who can move you forwrd.
Operations-Fran-
Could you explain strategic witnesses a bit more? I have
never heard that term.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-These
are people who are respecterd in your industry and who value
YOU. The people
you aspire to become. Find
one or two and recruit them to be of aid in meetings
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-A
strategic witness is someone
of poiwer who respects YOU and is respectedx in your
industry. THEY influence what happens to you..
Sandi
Kane-?For
those of you who are having problems entering text-->
Just type in a ? and hit enter.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-This
is Fran -- anymore questions?
jim
zigarelli-In
the new economy, is age an issue for advancement. Do people
over 45 advance as effectively.
Sandi
Kane-How
do you gain feedback as a consultant?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-The
new economy is limping and dying.
The OLD economy respects experience and strategic
thinking...which is ageless.
YOUTH could be a problem in a downturn
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Sandi
-- I'm not sure I understand your question -- how bout an
example?
Sandi
Kane-How
does a consultant gain strategic witnesses?
Jackie
McNab-?
Fran, What tips can give on give on developing your own
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-OK
-- I understand
Jackie
McNab-?leadership
style
Stephanie
Fricke-What
would be your two best tips for getting ahead as a woman in
the business workplace?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-First
-- encourage clients to write a letter expressing their
appreciation for your work -- collect them.
Put them in your portfolio and TARGET a witnTess or
two -- Get to know them --
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-To
develop YOUR style -- look around and see what you admire in
other leaders
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Then,
begin to try ONE thing that puts you in your bvest light.
KNOW that leaders are respected for how they THINK
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Get
in the habit of asking GOOD questions in meetings that show
your VISION and focus on OUTCOMES
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-TODAY's
KEYWORD IS ASSUME -- visit the ZONE click on down below and
you could WIN a day with ME!
Operations-From
Jackie--What is the best way to develop your leadership
style?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-LEaders
asre good communicators.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Make
sure you communicare clearly and pay attention to what works
for YOU.
jim
zigarelli-Could
you give a couple examples of leadership styles you admire,
Fran?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Are
you a storyteller? Are
you anecdotal? AND
always use EMAIL as a strategic tool for commhjnicating
succinctly to a team
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Leaders
focus on outcomes. Start looking at your outrcome FIRST and
then discuss steps -- then you will be seen as someone with
a VISION
gwen
wong-how
do you determine when email or in person is most effective?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Great
question
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Email
is for sharing INFORMATION and establishing procedure-- IN
PERSON is for establishing RELATIONSHIPS -- and in person
should be interspersed -- no real relationships are nurtured
in cyberspace alone
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Any
other questions?
Stephanie
Fricke-What
leaders do you admire most?
gwen
wong-so,
probably as a first, in-person and as the project
progresses, email...with periodic in-person if the team
needs it.....thanks
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-If
not, can I thank you pioneer astronauts? We seem to have
gotten something done, snags and all
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-I
admire leaders who lead with generosity and who have the
courage of their conviction -- Bill Bradley, John McCain,
Madeleine Albright -- JACKIE SPEIER!!!
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Gwen
-- right on. Once
you get buy-in, do a conference call and involve them.
You'll see personality style, and ayour team will
work harder for a for you because you are now REAL to them
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-A
thought -- the most important human need is to be seen and
heard. So -- let em SEE email and hear YOU -- then you have
mind and spirit.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Operations
-- how are we doing on time?
gwen
wong-can
you expand on that thought on being seen and heard?
Ruth
Stergiou-Fran
Thank you for being a pioneer this morningand for your time
our next chat is scheduled for 4:00 p.m. so if you woudl
like to join us again you would all be welcome?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-OK
-- In order to contribute we need to feel someone is
LISTENING -- and that they SEE us.
THat's why eye contact is soooooo valuable when
interacting and MUST be done in person!!!
gwen
wong-thanks.....{I'll
type faster next time......:-)}
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-I'm
happy to stay for 10 more minutes....anyone have
something???
Operations-Anymore
questions?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Gwen--
I'm with you --and my typos!!:)
Operations-Go
ahead Cindy
Cindy
A-What
is the most common mistakes women make in the work place?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Great
question. We
get stuck in learned assumptions and old habits.
We assume we need to work HARDER and have the RIGHT
answers....
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-THAT's
college stuff. Being
RIGHT has nothing to do with being in charge
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-In
fact, if you are seen as someone that needs to be right, you
will be seen as someoen
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-who
will make me WRONG eventually to STAY RIGHT.
Very marginalizing.
Don't focus on being right
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-or
having the right answer --
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-focus
on COMPELLING me to DO SOMETHING!!!!! In other words, stop
being a good girl with good answers
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-it's
very passive
Operations-Any
more questions for Fran?
gwen
wong-what
methods for compelling are effective for women?
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Anything
else as we make a bit o PBWC cyberherstory
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-PASSION
can be a very good thing!!!
Operations-Thank
you all for joining us today and our historical chat.
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-Align
your passion to commitment language not EMOTION language.
Women are KNOWN for getting things down with their
passion...USE THAT ASSUMPTION
Fran
Zone and Kimberly Rengle-THANK
YOU for the visit!!! hOPE WE'LL MEET AGAIN -- FRAN
gwen
wong-thanks!!!
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A
Chat with Fran Zone and PBWC Members
(4 PM Chat)
Fran
Zone
- Just got word we're starting in 5 min -- stay tuned!
PBWC
moderator-We
are just waiting for a to see if a few more arrivals join us.
Before we start our chat I have a few general rules to present
and then I will turn it over to our hosts, Kimberly and Fran.
PBWC
moderator-Welcome
again everyone. Thank you for joining us today
PBWC
moderator-Here
are the rules before we start:
PBWC
moderator-1)
The Fran Zone Chat is a moderated chat room. 2) Please
do not type questions or comments until the moderator gives
you permission. 3) To ask a question or make a comment only
type in a question mark: "?"
PBWC
moderator-4)
After you submit a "?" your question will be held in
queue. When the moderator (that is me, Operations) gives you
permission please type in your full question or comment. 5)
Please respect everyone who is sharing the chat with you by
refraining from profanity and prejudicial comments especially
related to sex, race, age or class.
PBWC
moderator-Fran
- please begin
Fran
Zone-Hello
and welcome!!! I
answered the pre-sent Q's this am -- I can re-do or we can
start fresh -- your cxall
PBWC
moderator-Fran
- why don't you start with few of the questions that people
submitted early and we will take any new requests from our
current participants
Fran
Zone-Also
-- you can enter to win a free day with me on Aug 1 -- scrool
down to the pic of me a-- the key word is ASSUME
Fran
Zone-One
great ? from this am was: How can women make the transition
from management to the executive suite?
Fran
Zone-Managers
are usually facilitation focused in their communication.
Executives focus on strategy.
Executives are respected for how they think -- not how
late or how hard they work. Strategic thinkers move up the
ladder quickly. Seize opportunities to share how you think --
in meetings, in email -- ask questions about outcomes and
strategy -- always align to objectives when making a
point...And whenever possible, be seen as the voice of reason
-- the person that can put things in perspective.
EVER
Fran
Zone-meetings,
in email -- ask questions about outcomes and strategy --
always align to objectives when making a point...And whenever
possible, be seen as the voice of reason -- the person that
can put things in perspective.
EVERY meeting and every boardroom needs a voice of
reason -- why not let it be YOU?
Fran
Zone-not
let it be YOU?
Fran
Zone-Some
of you might be wondering what makes "good" leaders?
Fran
Zone-Good
leaders are good listeners. They listen for what's needed and
make choices accordingly. Great leaders are motivators and
enablers. They
motivate action and enable results by providing the tools,
support and/or resources necessary to get the job done and
allow OTHERS to take the credit.
Fran
Zone-take
the credit
Millie
-I
also wonder how we can improve our 'reasoning' skills when we
present ourselves in such meetings?
Fran
Zone-Anyone
have a burning communication issue?????
Fran
Zone-Be
the VOICE OF REASON. Speak
to the potential OUTCOME of the item being discussed and give
the room an understasnding that you think past ACTION and on
to OUTCOME
PBWC
moderator-Fran
- are their any behaviors that really limit our communication
powers or others that greatly increase our chances of being
heard?
Fran
Zone-ABSOOLUTELY---
if you LOOK like a worker you will always be treated like one.
Millie
-limitations
might include fear of embarrassment
Millie
-how
does a worker look like?
Fran
Zone-Workers
shlep unnecessary things to meetings and look like they're
working, not thinking
Fran
Zone-Embasrassment
of WHAT?
Fran
Zone-Milllie
-- you seem to have something on your mind -- what is it?
Millie
-embarrassment
of being attacked by the collective 'male' group if what you
say is too 'feminine'
Fran
Zone-GREAT.
The only way you can be perceived as being too feminine
is to use "poersonal" language
Fran
Zone-Never
use the language of how you FEEL -- instead -- make your point
by telling the room how somtehing might affect an objective...
Millie
-I
am the only women in a start-up that I am working for. I have worked in other companies before with a more diverse
age group. But
with this new company I am feeling that I need to constantly
make a mark for myself by voicing 'somthing' or 'anything'
Fran
Zone-THAT's
how men think....also you CAN align to your passion--- just
surround it with words of commitment and focus rather than
emotion. Speak in
SHORT sentences and look those boys in the eye!!
Fran
Zone-You
don't need to put so much pressure on yourself....
Fran
Zone-EMAIL
is a great way to share a thought AFTER a meeting to the whole
group and NO ONE can interupt interrupt you..
Millie
-I'll
keep the short-sentences in mind.
Fran
Zone-Good.
Men are not big on concept -- they want someone to win
or lose
Millie
-=)
Fran
Zone-Glad
I could help!!:) back at ya -- AND yoAu can still win a day
with me-- scroll down and type in the keyword ASSUME
Millie
-is
it possible to create a more 'collaborative' environment with
such 'competitive' mentality?
Fran
Zone-YES.
Do it deliberately. One
person at a time.
PBWC
moderator-How?
Fran
Zone-What
you need is a strategic witness -- someone in the grtoup who
values you -- who has more power and who respects you.
THEY will embrace you with their influence and make
sure the others LISTEN.
Fran
Zone-This
is someone you want to sit ACROSS from in meetings...people
will see this person looking at you with respect and LISTENING
-- and they will mirror tha behavior
Fran
Zone-Let's
agree that power is genderless.
IT's just the ability to make a decision with authority
and resources. If
you want that -- focus on being COMPELLING -- and let me know
how you or your idea will affect ME.
If it's good for "me" it's goooood!
Fran
Zone-I
was asked this am what my biggest mistake was
Fran
Zone-I
would have to say that it was believing that working HARDER
and LONGER would get me somewhere
Fran
Zone-Lisa
-- l;ooking forward to your Q -- what is it?
PBWC
moderator-Lisa-
please ask your question now.
Lisa
Benson-What
is the best way to prepare for a media (print or tv)
interview?
Fran
Zone-Do
your homework. Preparation is vital in media interview. Know as much about the interviewer, their publication, or
program as possible. What do they focus on?
Fran
Zone-To
make it worth your time,
you should never do media interviews merely to answer
questions -- you do media interviews to deliver a message.
Identify and define the message you want to deliver.
Anticipate the 5 questions you expect the most and
DREAD the most. Be
ready for all of them.
Millie
-If
working HARDER and LONGER would not get us further, then what
does?
Fran
Zone-GREAT
question. Being
valued for how you THINK and managing what is ASSUMED of you.
Fran
Zone-Workers
can only work harder and longer -- and the reward is MORE
WORK.
Fran
Zone-Let
us see how you THINK-- we'll value and reward THAT --it's
MANAGEMENT material
Fran
Zone-ALSO--
Know that you should look the part -- your office should NOT
be cluttered and full of paper -- you liked like youhave too
much WORK to do
Fran
Zone-and
you won;t get a shot at more respoinsibility
Fran
Zone-Go
ahead Susie
Fran
Zone-ask
yourQ
Susie-What
is best way to leverage perceptionin wkplace
Xuan
Nyugen-Please
give more detail about "being valued for what you THINK
and what is ASSUMED of you"
Fran
Zone-Get
a mentor -- and get a strategic witness -- someone outside the
office of power who respects you.
Join an org and become a leader in it....your co-workersd
will hjear about it and see a change in you
Fran
Zone-AND
-- in a job review clearly DEFINE what you want to do next and
have your boss path you for it....have them BUY IN to your
growth and get it in writing!
Susie-?
Fran
Zone-go
ahead Susie
Susie-How
did you join in the "good Old Boys club"? I notice
you wk w/ some male dominated places
Fran
Zone-Yes
I do. In fact, MCI moved me here and I still can't tell you
how a phone works. THAT
didn't matter. W
Fran
Zone-What
DID matter was getting rid of the "girl" stereotype
Fran
Zone-I
immediately seized the VOICE OF REASON assumption.
Fran
Zone-That
way, I was never too emotional and it was never personal. ALSO -- STRATEGIC witnesses --OTHER MEN-- can be VERY helpful
in breaking that barrier
Fran
Zone-Find
one out of your company who wiol mentor and network you--you
both WIN
Fran
Zone-Welcome
back, Gwen!!
Fran
Zone-ready
for the Q
Lisa
Benson-What
do you think is the most commom mistake females make in day to
day at work
gwen
wong-got
your call..I plan to call you back later.
Was intrigued earlier and wanted to hear more.:-)
Fran
Zone-Our
biggest mistake is that we seem to think we need permission to
excel -- or we'll be seen as too aggressive. That's garbage
Fran
Zone-WE
also think we need the right answer all the time
Xuan
Nyugen-I
work in a group-oriented company and I have a hard time
speaking in groups. Do you have any suggestions to become more
assertive?
Fran
Zone-NO
WE DON'T -- but having the QWUESTION is compelling!!!
Fran
Zone-YES
-- take charge of the setting -- where you sit -- who's across
from you -- who knows you have an agenda item to discuss
Xuan
Nyugen-Thanks!
Fran
Zone-and
then it's not you ALONE -- it's you and team members pulling
together a bit. ALSO-- in any group discussion the KEY Q to
answer is HOW WIOLL THIS IDEA AFFECT ME?
gwen
wong-so
if we don't need to "excel" and we don't need to be
right...how should we effectively "play the game"?
Fran
Zone-if
THE GROUP SEES YOUR ANSWER AS GOOD FOR THEM -- THEY WON'T
RESIST YOU
Millie
-How
do we not take things personally and to minimize the emotinal
stress from work?
Fran
Zone-Be
COMPELLING. Be
STRATEGIC. ALIGN
TO THE LEDGER. MAKE MGMT look good
Fran
Zone-KNOW
that it's NEVER about YOU -- it's about how you affect someone
or something elkse -- keep the discussion THERE and you won't
get rattled
Fran
Zone-Oh
-- and GWEN -- Circulate in your industry -- the respect of
the competition is a REAL career builder!!
gwen
wong-circulate
in the industry?
Fran
Zone-Yes
-- join a prof. org. go to industry events -- take a
leadership position that is visible to your "world"
gwen
wong-so,
have others also know you (with respect).....build alliances
and a "cheering squad"...cross industry/....
2833
m Fran Zone-AND -- if you do something for which awards
are given in your industry -- ENTER TO WIN
C.K.
Hart-Fran,
Fran
Zone-YES.
The world is bigger than the bui9lding you sit in
Fran
Zone-Hi
CK WHAT"S UUP
Fran
Zone-Is
there a ? out there?
Susie-I
read the chat from this morning. You speak of being rational,
yet passionate could you explain a little more, please. I
thought the two were seperate.
C.K.
Hart-How
do you deal with employers or clients who want to nickle and
dime you during negotiations. You know they can aford what you
are asking but they insist they are broke or will go broke if
they pay your "exhorbitant" salary/fee.
Fran
Zone-PASSION,
aligned to COMMITMENT is unstoppable. PASSION aligned to
EMOTION is usually marginalizing and seen as too female.
Fran
Zone-My
FAVORITE pet peeve CK -- Here's one -- when they ask "How
much is MY rate?" I
usually say -- where on my rate ccard do you see MY RATE -- I
don't have a YOU rate....
Fran
Zone-ALSO
-- I say -- I would love to be abler to charge you less, but
then you wouldn't respect me
Fran
Zone-or
my work -- and how can we work together
Fran
Zone-if
you don't respect me?
Fran
Zone-KNOW
what you're worth. and
be willing to say NO
C.K.
Hart-I
love that response
Fran
Zone-Glad
to be of aid
PBWC
moderator-Do
we have any more questions?
Fran
Zone-Don't
forget -- Aug 1 -- you can win--the key word is ASSUME
Fran
Zone-THANK
YOU for this visit. Hope
we'll meet again.
Millie
-Thank
you Fran.
C.K.
Hart-Fran,
what advise do you have for those of us that may have an
occasion lapse of confidence?
Lisa
Benson-I
am happy w/ my current postion--dont want to move up but want
to be seen as valuable
Fran
Zone-We
ALL have an occasional lapse of confidence.
Call someone who loves and appreciastes you right away
and get a dollup of support
Fran
Zone-You;ll
both be better for it
Fran
Zone-How
is "value" seen where you work
Lisa
Benson-Value
as in movement upward in the Company
Lisa
Benson-The
food chain
Fran
Zone-Just
doing your job, or what is expected won't help you
Fran
Zone-Find
something new that interests you and explore it. You'll be seen as someone who is growing.
Fran
Zone-It
can be something within your job that could use an overhaul. FRESHNESS is always good.
Fran
Zone-Anything
else???
PBWC
moderator-This
issue is of real concern to working mother's who don't want to
give up any family time.
Do you have any additional comments about this?
Fran
Zone-SET
BOUNDARIES!!!! You'll
be respected for it. Define
the rules right away and stay with them.
More and more single parents are vital leaders and are
being considered.....Sit down with your boss and agree on the
lines -- it truly works.
Fran
Zone-AND
-- find a family friendly company SF has LOTS of them
PBWC
moderator-Are
there any more questions our there?
Fran
Zone-Is
Millie's done, I think we're all done!!
THANK YOU -- see you again, I hope.
PBWC
moderator-Fran,
thank you for being a pioneer in the first PBWC chats.
Transcripts of this chat and the morning chat can be
found at www.pbwc.org.
Fran
Zone-My
pleasure
Millie
3-Thanks Fran. Technical
problems and I was not able to read the end.
Thank you for your valuable insights and for sharing
them!
Fran
Zone-Millile
-- enter to WIN a day with me -- and stay in touch!!!
Millie
3-Thanks again Fran.
gwen
wong-thanks,
again...I'll look for the place to "enter"
C.K.
Hart-Thank
you.
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